Posted by Exodus 22:19 on September 02, 2001 at 07:23:44:
In Reply to: Re: Death and Religion (very very very long) pt 2 posted by Ezekiel 25:17 on September 02, 2001 at 00:49:57:
: : Sorry, I'm a little lost at the point you're trying to make here.
: Never mind, I was just rambling. At times like these, you just pat my shoulder and say 'there, there'.
SNAP OUT OF IT! :)
: Justice doesn't exist my friend :)
Maybe not true justice, but it ain't a perfect world mon ami...
: Is the law justice?
No, but enough people have enough of the same moral code to make it socially unacceptable for a person to do certain things and the law is an extension of that.
: Should the moral code of the majority override the individual liberties of the minority?
To some extent, yes.
: What makes the majority anymore right than the minority?
: If everyone in the world believed that the world was flat, than would that be correct?
No, that would be ignorance. But if everyone in the world believed it were wrong to spitroast porcupines, then that would be a moral belief and the moral belief of the majority rules as it must in any non-dictatorial society (for obvious reasons ie. more of us than you)
It doesn't mean that it would be impossible to spitroast a porcupine, it just wouldn't be approved of.
: Again, the question is what is the basis of someone's moral system and where does it come from?
Again I will answer as best I can... a person's moral belief system comes from what the person believes is right within themself. I cannot answer it more precisely any more than I could say what the purpose of the third brain cell from the left of this guy's cranium is for.
: : : Ask yourself this: What if there is no heaven?
: : If there is no heaven then there is no big cherry on the cake for completing the apparent 'ardor' of life. Some people may need to have a carrot dangled in front of them to go on, but in the end, I believe true happiness can only come from understanding yourself.
: : Thankyou and goodnight.
: : (Go jesus it's your birthday!)
: Personally, I believe true happiness comes from denial and ignorance. (Lots of happy people out there) Truly understanding yourself is one of striving and hardship. Truly understanding the universe is an impossibility. The search for meaning is not easy and should be differentiated from the pursuit of happiness :)
That is possibly the most cynical thing I have ever heard... congratulations. You cannot know yourself truly, only make progress towards it. The search for meaning is not easy, but results in happiness. If you know what you want, only then will you know how to get it.
: Birthdays are also over-rated. :)
Only after about 30 :)
: Was Jesus actually born around now? I sure know he wasn't born on the 24th December (pagan rituals). Is not buying Jesus a gift for his birthday one of the major or minor sins?
I don't know and possibly.... I was actually thinking more along the line of a kind of hip hop anthem for the ol' guy. I think it's time for a more musically inclusive Jesus.
: My 2 cents.
If there is a fine line between pleasure and pain, then it was my pleasure.
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