Posted by Ezekiel 25:17 on September 02, 2001 at 00:49:57:
In Reply to: Re: Death and Religion (very very very long) pt 2 posted by Exodus 22:19 on September 01, 2001 at 08:21:26:
: Sorry, I'm a little lost at the point you're trying to make here.
Never mind, I was just rambling. At times like these, you just pat my shoulder and say 'there, there'.
: Yes, the world is full of people of different natures, different belief systems. Most thieves/murderers justify what they do within their own mind, eg. "I only kill those who have it coming to them", but in the end the moral code shared by a majority override these people in the form of justice.
: Everyone differs in beliefs, but most people have a base moral/belief system.
Justice doesn't exist my friend :)
Is the law justice?
Should the moral code of the majority override the individual liberties of the minority?
What makes the majority anymore right than the minority?
If everyone in the world believed that the world was flat, than would that be correct?
Again, the question is what is the basis of someone's moral system and where does it come from?
: : Death comes to all eventually, how you live is ultimately your choice. There are no points given for being good, but if you can't respect yourself and choose to live without a code of honour, why bother?
: Precisely. And where does the basis of respect for yourself come from? From somewhere within yourself.
: : Ask yourself this: What if there is no heaven?
: If there is no heaven then there is no big cherry on the cake for completing the apparent 'ardor' of life. Some people may need to have a carrot dangled in front of them to go on, but in the end, I believe true happiness can only come from understanding yourself.
: Thankyou and goodnight.
: (Go jesus it's your birthday!)
Personally, I believe true happiness comes from denial and ignorance. (Lots of happy people out there) Truly understanding yourself is one of striving and hardship. Truly understanding the universe is an impossibility. The search for meaning is not easy and should be differentiated from the pursuit of happiness :)
Birthdays are also over-rated. :)
Was Jesus actually born around now? I sure know he wasn't born on the 24th December (pagan rituals). Is not buying Jesus a gift for his birthday one of the major or minor sins?
My 2 cents.
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